I don’t know anyone who cares about punishing Hitler Girl for being an anti-semitic bigot.

David, if you wore a KKK outfit around campus shortly after MLK day, “to provoke discussion”, then you might have a point.

Nobody is objecting to Julia’s personal opinions or her “links”. Rather, we’re objecting to her role in this, as either the puppet with Schvern’s hand up her ass (figuatively speaking, of course) or as her dragging him into this. Especially in the wake of her other comments and her disturbingly close association with somebody with Robert Shvern, who seems to spend more time on campus than any 33-year old outside the faculty should, has an unsavory amount of contact with white nationalist groups, and is dating somebody 14 years his junior.

If you were involved with Eva Braun prior to your fateful “winter study jaunt across the quad”, David, now is the time to tell us.

and david, you don’t post these things, claim free speech, and then get mad when people speak about them. and we do pick on you, as we point out many of the flaws in those links in the comments. and when you claimed i was whining about the sites, you got appropriately reprimanded for it.

Thanks for the flash from the past, David. I’m still trying to get over the fact that it’s been almost a year since graduation. Scary.

David R: Before you know it, it’ll be your 50th reunion, and the College will be hitting you and your fortune up for an endowed chair or the like.

much of this amounts to backhanded philosemitism…

Kane, what’s the point of this post?

To remind people that you also hold views that would be deemed offensive by some and out of the mainstream by … well, everyone in the mainstream?

Are you jealous of someone else’s uproar and need attention?

Do you want Julia and Mr. Shvern to cite you?

Why the incessant obsession. Are we able to blog about persons, places, or ideas that raise our consciousness, that adds value to our individual lives, that enhances our quality of life? Why undermine the inherent goodness of most people with an unhealthy psychopathic pathology which serves no real interest?

The after-consequences of the actions of the preceding individual(s) may result in bemoaning their errors, but where it may do more harm than good, is to act in unnatural and unmanly conduct with the consequent result of the ruin of one’s person through the complaint in the end. It may rouse you to defend yourself, but such bitter recrimination may only continue that which you seek to end.

Forgiveness may be the better part of valor than revenge. Seek to add them as allies rather than as adveraries.

Seek out history as a teacher, rather than the portents of augury. Tis better to be wise than foolish.

“inherent goodness”

That’s debatable (not referring to the keeper of this blog).

The time remaining is too small to invest in forgiveness or other effort for these two. As far as I am concerned, they will have to fend for themselves.

“able to blog about persons, places, or ideas that raise our consciousness”

Bringing all the ugly details to the light of day has certainly “raise(d) my consciousness” about the intent of Julia and Shvren in this matter.

For that I’m extremely grateful to D Kane.

And from what I’ve learned, I’d rather not “Seek to add them as allies.” It would make more sense to direct your advice to the two who chose “foolish” over “wise.”

I agree with (d)avid– what was the point of this post?

My objection with Julia is the same objection I often have with you, David. The debate as to whether or not one has the right to say these things seems secondary to me. Let’s assume for now that Julia had the right to post pictures of Hitler on her classmate’s doors. My question– and the one I’ve posed to you on the couple of times I’ve written here– is WHY would she say these things? Of all the things to parody in the world, she chose to parody a Holocaust memorial. No matter what rights she has, her choice of subjects to lampoon speaks volumes about her as a person. That she hides behind satire is ridiculous: free speech is not consequence-free speech; if Voltaire went to prison for his brilliant satire, Julia should have to face the consequences (albeit, certainly not prison) of her not-so-brilliant satire.

In the end, though, seeing as how an apology is not likely, all I want is that she be ashamed. Why would anyone make fun of a holocaust memorial? For all the intellectualizing that one could do concerning free speech; for all the talk about her rights to say what she feels, what seems to be lost is what she actually did: she made light of one of the greatest tragedies in history. Maybe I’m dense, but I don’t know why anyone would want to satirize that.

And now you seem to be running to her defense. What does this say about you, David? (And don’t quote Voltaire to me– the point of this post seems to be not that you disagree with what she said but will defend to your death her right to say it, but rather that your views and Julia’s views are, in fact, similar.)

“Why would anyone make fun of a holocaust memorial?”

In her latest rationale, Julia makes it abundantly clear that she would, if she could, deny any “Jewish” expression whatsoever — and that she decries the audacity of Jews who implicate religion in their expression. It’s not a long leap to believe she supports the aims of the Holocaust.