Wed 5 Mar 2008
Below are some notes from the Road Scholars meeting in Foxboro. These are all from the public sessions, either Morty’s introductory remarks or the panel of professors at the end. Any readers that were there should chime in.
All of these are from memory. I think that they are accurate, but I might have misheard or misremembered. I did not take notes.
1) Morty mentioned that international admissions were up to “almost 10%.” EphBlog gets results! Are there really 50+ internationals in the class of 2011? Perhaps this is the plan for the class of 2012? I still think that it would be good for the Williams community to have a more open discussion of this topic. Why not a high-level committee that would look at the experiences of international students at Williams, report on what is happening at other schools, provide an overview of the strength of the admissions pool and so on? I do not know if Williams should be 10% or 20% or 30% international in a decade. Yet this is a conversation that we need to have.
2) Trustee Jonathan Kraft ‘86 gave a highly complimentary introduction for Morty. He mentioned that the capital campaign has reached $452 million. The campaign, while having surpassed its original goal, is still looking for a $50 million donor. The new North and South Academic buildings still need a name. Kraft Hall anyone?
3) There was some discussion at the professor panel about grade inflation. EphBlog sets the agenda! The basic story seems to be that the average grade rose from 3.0 to 3.3 from 1990 to 2000. The College made a big push to stop that a few years ago. The main tool is moral suasion. Also, each professor gets a report at the end of the year indicating how her grades compare to others from her department, other similar-level classes and the College as a whole. There are guidelines like: the average grade in 100-level courses should be 3.1; 200-level 3.2 and so on. These reforms seemed to stop the inflation for a few years. There was some discussion that things may have worsened (average grades going up) in the last couple of years, but no one knew the data off-hand.
4) I asked a question about the Report on Varsity Athletics and whether or not professors have seen a change over the last decade in admissions standards. In retrospect, I should have asked a better question since this whole topic requires more background — both for the audience and for professors on the panel — but I was eager to provide more detail for our discussion from Friday. None of the professors said that they had a problem with the current policy. (Of course, as the Report makes clear, problems are highly concentrated in a few departments.) Professor Will Dudley ‘89 told the story of his hugely popular class of philosophy and sports which has attracted 100 athletes both times that he has taught it. He said that the quality of students in the class was much higher this last time (last fall?) then it was a few years ago. (Needless to say, there could be all sorts of reasons for that, but it is one interesting data point.) Professor Tom Garrity seems to have been a part of a committee that has looked at this recently. He said that athletes are doing as well at Williams as students with similar academic credentials. (Of course, this was largely true even in the days of much more significant admissions advantages, as the Report admits but tries to obfuscate.) Garrity also discussed the issue of clumping, of athletes taking classes together. He noted that, of course, we want friends to take classes together and members of the same athletic team are likely to be friends. But it seems like many of the concerns raised in the Report, especially about the negative impact of high profile tips on the quality of other students’ education, have gone away.
5) There was a question about the recent demands from Congress for information on the College’s endowment and spending priorities, in particular with respect to financial aid. Morty mentioned that the College had turned in its answers, after many, many drafts. It appeared yesterday. Morty thought that Williams did not have much to worry about because we already spend more than 5% of the endowment each year.
6) Morty discussed financial aid. One of the many reasons that Morty is so wonderful is that he is such a straight-shooter in these contexts. He mentioned that aid was going up so much that it was faintly ridiculous to talk about it in terms of “need.” When you are giving price cuts to families making $200,000 per year, how can that be anything but a “merit” award? He thought that Williams needed to keep pace with its peers but he saw no reason to be a leader in this unfortunate competition. He mentioned that Williams spending on aid has grown substantially in just the last few years. (Competition is a wonderful thing!) I think that the numbers he said were an increase from $20 million to $37 million. But I may have that wrong and I did not get the time period. He hinted that the Trustees would be making an announcement in the next few weeks about Williams capping the contribution from home equity as a percentage of family income. I predicted this a few months ago, but I can’t find the link.
We still need a three part Record series on just how financial aid works at Williams: How gets how much money? How do those deals compare to the ones offered at other schools? What sorts of students does Williams gain and lose as a result?
Anyway, overall the event was well-run and highlighted all the best things about Williams. If you have a chance to attend one in the future, you should.
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May 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pm[...] number than I would have guessed. I thought that Morty mentioned a figure closer to $200,000 at the Roads Scholars event in March. I think that the difference lies in the treatment of large “capital” gifts. [...]
March 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
David:
Wonderful unbiased reporting. Lots of good information. Thank you.
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Per #1: “Are there really 50+ internationals in the class of 2011?”
I count 56 in the class of 11 facebook.
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Per #4: “None of the professors said they have a problem with the current policy.”
“…athletes at Williams are doing a well as students with similar academic credentials.”
“…the negative impact of high profile tips, on the quality of other students’ education, have gone away.”
I sure hope EB takes this to heart.
March 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Speaking of big donations (not quite 50 million, but not chump change either):
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/03/former_baseball.html
In related news, I will donate that $50 million if they change the name of the school to “Zeeman College.”
March 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
In typical modest fashion, DK failed to mention that he was one of two left standing (or rather, not standing) after Will Dudley’s game of “professor says…”.
March 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Jeff: In 1900 $50 million might possibly have done it.
March 5th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Jeff: I am so on this idea!
I’ve sent DKane some pix for the Zeemans College brochure.
Maybe he can figure out how to post!
“From Z to shining Z”
Would-be grad in Hood River.
March 5th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
It still irritates me hugely that Williams / Morty insists on talking about all the $200,000-level income earners getting financial aid, with the implication that “need” is no longer the issue because everyone below that range is taken care of. Such an argument seems slightly ridiculous when you consider that there are still sub-$100k families who get no aid whatsoever.
I guess you can justify it if you twist the definition of “need” far enough to say that every student at Williams is having their financial need met, because clearly they wouldn’t be here if they weren’t, but then the word becomes almost meaningless. There’s a whole scale of “need” between “my family can afford this if they mortgage the house, dip into their retirement savings, and commit their entire disposable income to paying my tuition” and “I could reasonably ask my parents to send me here without demanding that they absolutely destroy their financial situation.” Many Williams students (including me) are closer to the first of those than the second, and I wish Morty’s propaganda on financial aid could be a little bit more honest about that.
March 5th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Fifty years ago the families of the relatively few middle middle class students at Williams received absolutely no financial aid (and consequently experienced great financial sacrifice) in happily sending their beloved sons to the College and didn’t whine about it.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
You’ve highlighted one of the many reasons why Williams today is a much better school than Williams was fifty years ago.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
I know that CPI etc is a not a great measure, but I can’t help repeating myself in making the point as:
In 1988 the top financial aid cutoff for families was about $120K– and pretty rare. A family earning $120K in 1988 had, roughly, the buying power of a family– well, at least the buying power of a family earning about $230K today.
Never mind all the other complexities– that in fact the family earning $120K in ‘88 is probably not earning $230K today, and faces higher costs for food, health care, etc.
Morton also darn well knows that, other than from the perspective of various cash flow issues, tuition has been a minor input to the budgets of higher education over the past quarter century.
As Wick Sloane seems to put it, we could make every seat free, and the institution would still work, economically. I have no issue with making families that have Porshes contribute– but why do we insist on placing financial burdens on families which struggle, when doing so is absolutely unnecessary, and we also know darn well that the dollars we are taking from such families limit their further opportunities, education, and achievements?
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March 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Because the recipients of financial aid complain that it is not enough?
March 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Dear ‘10,
Certainly much different than 50 years ago.
President Shapiro wisely has students off the premises when reunions are held, At those events alums see things as they were, not as they are because we see and populate the campus with our memories.
I only experience the current campus experience through the words expressed on this blog.
While I know important changes have taken place, I read of many problems that arise because of them.
And many of the problems seem to take away from the sense of ’school experience’ that while homogenous in the 50’s did seem to lead to a sense of collegiality that manages to pervade the passing years.
I am led to a conclusion that ‘better’ now v then needs to be carefully defined and measured rather than handled as a generality.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:30 am
frank:
I spent a good two days of my first week at Deep Springs waste-deep in a maggot-filled deep meat freezer that some idiot had unplugged in the desert heat, months before.
The College had a very close budget– for which a student committee was ultimately responsible– and the loss of that meat was several thousand dollars that had to be found elsewhere; the freezer itself, a $1K or so capital asset that had to be recovered.
The endowment of DS now stands above $15M, the main house that Frank Lloyd Wright built (and we fastidiously tried to maintain) has been renovated by a third-rate architectural firm that was paid ten times or more what the SB could have done the same work for– loosing Frank’s vision– and I can hope no one has removed Frank’s handwritten plans from where I indexed them in the library, below a modest sign that declares, as does Williams’ “Mission Statement,” ‘from those to whom much is given, much is expected.’
No day passes in which I do not consider the enormity of what I have been given. (Two minutes ago, my laptop was being used by someone who can’t get “online” elsewise, and is waiting for pictures from his brother in Iraq; I’m going to give it back momentarily).
At Deep Springs, the President has just been dismissed by the Trustees– who are historically more women that Williams’– for excessive emphasis on the “game” of fundraising, versus the values of the College.
Do you think for a second that the ‘moneychangers’ consider the value lessons, and the life lessons, that are taught by the structure of ‘aid?’
March 6th, 2008 at 5:37 am
The Road Scholar program seems to be successful. I tried to register a week before it was given and was turned away, told that it was fully subscribed and that there was a waiting list.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Dick, thanks for the support. All you need do to make it happen is spot me about 49.95 million …
March 6th, 2008 at 11:26 am
(Ken: This is a true parentehesis.
Your description of the food locker immediately flashed the scene in Greenaway’s “The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover”. And. sticking with P Greenaway for just a sec, how often in the more esoteric parts of the ephblog conversation, I feel as though I am lost somewhere in “Prosepero’s Books”. I recognize this is my problem).
March 6th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Ken - once more to your post: an expansion on your great personal reference to the Sachse House.
Text from the Library of Congress Show
FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT
Designs for an American Landscape, 1922-1932
“A.M. Johnson and Wright stopped at Deep Springs College in March 1924 while motoring to Johnson’s camp in Grapevine Canyon. Located in a high desert valley several miles north of Death Valley but almost equally remote, the college had been founded in 1917 by L.L. Nunn, a colleague of Johnson’s who had enlisted his backing. Wright was asked to design a small house for Martin Sachse, a master mechanic who worked for the college.
“Wright’s design for the Sachse house forms a link between his cubic Los Angeles houses and the more expansive designs for desert settings that would follow. Drawings with extensive notations in Wright’s hand indicate conventional wood-frame construction with a stucco finish; collogued tiles in white mastic would have enlivened its stepped upper planes. Low-walled “compounds” shown on the plan and suggested in the elevation and perspective establish an area of arranged desert plantings distinct from the surrounding wilds.”
Perspective and elevation may be found here:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/flw/flw05.html
With a life- time of thanks to Stoddard-Pierson-Faison
March 7th, 2008 at 2:31 am
As far as I know, the Sachse House plan the LOC presents never began construction.
Brad Edmonson gave each of us in the first-year class the task of indexing several linear feet of the archives that had sat in the warehouse behind the main house– next to some interesting 50s-era electronics from “area 51″– for decades; by luck, the boxes I received contained quite a bit of Presidential and diplomatic correspondence, along with Wright’s plan for the main student residence in which I and the rest of the SB were living.
The area 51 boys also had a fun practice of conducting practice runs in the DS Valley; some weeks after the freezer incident, I turned around from clearing a field with a firegun, to discover a stealth fighter hovering over my shoulder. We shared a remote radio relay with them and the JPL station, and the chatter over the line– mostly about finding alcohol and women– was quite a diversion.
And nothing like suddenly staring into the guns of a top secret, billion-dollar “doesn’t exist yet” Raptor to test your cool, I guess.
The main house plan, as well, was never fully completed; but it was the starting point for the building I briefly inhabited and had responsibility for; and that building’s beauty rested, perhaps, in the facts that a lack of budget and excess resulted in a combination of ‘modesty and necessity’, and what the Germanic usages term “builder’s tradition.”
Excepting: that the attempt at establishing a Third Holy Empire considered Hitler its “Hauptbaumeister” and “Bauleiter” far before its “Fuerher.”
Albert Speer writing from his two floors in Spandau, my translation: “Hitler was first and foremost an architect, and war, architecture by other means.” Judith Butler and others have heard me quote that a few hundred times… and when I really want to annoy Judith, I remind her she once declared, without irony, something like that “Philosophy and Rhetoric have nothing to do with physical geography.”
I knew Stoddard– though briefly through lectures and passing by his office and listening– and his teachings determined my understanding and path: I would not have had a chance at understanding the Hitler-Speer plan, and what its “moment in history” was, without Whitney.
Goethe’s memoirs have an incredible section on waking to look upon the bombed landscape of Koeln; today’s academia calls this something like “scarification” of “the body”, but Whitney gave me a perspective that spanned “centuries” and always asked if there was something more than what I saw.
I know and understand Faison (much less Pierson) far less, but hope…
March 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I am enjoying this thread…from the sidelines…amid other distractions [...]
I had no idea that there was a Wright house at D.S. He really made his way around, that fellow. Nice link, Dick. You seem to love art and beauty, Manolos included.( I don’t own any…I am more the ‘ballet flats’ kind of gal, but Manolos, high, high heels notwithstanding, are beautiful)
Is Deep Springs ‘aesthetically pleasing’, Ken? From a couple of your paragraphs, it sounds like it may be ‘tired’. Or it could be the “maggots” falsely gave me that impression. (!)
The desert intrigues me. I don’t know if I could live there as I really am a tree-lover, but IMO, for ’spiritual’ retreat, it is unequaled. Wide, open spaces get me out of my head…very healing.
I have an artist friend who was close to Faison, mentored by him…very indebted to him. I have heard some wonderful stories.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Ken -
Thanks for another great stream. If you’d loose the punctuation, you’d be taught - “I’ve put in so many enigmas and puzzles that it will keep the professors busy for centuries arguing over what I meant, and that’s the only way of insuring one’s immortality.” .
I’m at an age where writng to an outline helps me remember where I am.
So…
1. Re: Wright. What a tremendous experience to have had hands-on with materials that would become ‘archival’ because of your input! Bob Fordyce ‘56 donated his collection of Wright ephemera to the Chapin Library at our 50th and even these printed materials of the time were exciting to see.
As to the Sasche House itself, it is interesting to see in the renderings (or at least I think I see) and to use your observation ‘Tradition des Erbauers’, foreshadowing of the Usonian houses.
2. Re: “war, architecture by other means”. A great take on Clauswitz! And an understanding of the meaning of architecture in time and place. Roger Kennedy is so expressive of this in “Orders from France’ with the great play on ‘orders’ (I remember drawing those orders in Art History 1).
3. Re: Bill Pierson. Fachmann auf der Geschichte der Architektur in the department (or would ‘Baumeister’ have done it). I spent an interesting semester discussing 13 types of French Romanesque with him. His series “American Buildings and their Architects” is eminently readable.
4. Re: Deep Springs. It seems to me you have a book’s worth of material. I hear Wallace Stegner meeting Cormac McCarthy.
And de capo and Joyce - What is your ref for the startling entry under ‘danger’?
Thank you again. Ken!