Mon 5 May 2008
Interested in my thoughts on the debate over WNY? Read below.
1) If I were a faculty member, I would want more detail on who voted how. Recall that the vote was 6-3 in favor of termination. But no details are given about who voted for what. Why? Is that typical? All Williams committee reports that I am familiar with have been unanimous so I don’t know of a precedence for this, but at least a few faculty members must be curious. Someone should ask at the meeting.
The reason that this matters is that two members of the Committee, Keith Finan and John Gerry, are not members of the faculty. They work for and are accountable to the Administration. That doesn’t make them bad people, but they have no tenure protection. If they piss off enough people, they will get fired. Now, no one is suggesting that their bosses (Provost Bill Lenhart and Dean of the Faculty William Wagner, respectively) would force them to do something unethical, but it is not at all clear that they had freedom to vote their consciences. Note in particular that the Report lists them as, respectively, the “Provost’s representative” and the “Dean of the Faculty’s representative.” If they were on the committee as the representatives of Lenhart and Wagner, weren’t they supposed to vote as Lenhart/Wagner wanted them to? Again, there is nothing wrong with that per se, but it adds color to the 6-3 vote.
I suspect that both Gerry and Finan voted to kill the program and that these votes were consistent with the wishes of their bosses. So, the “real” vote, the vote among faculty members, was only 4-3 against. In fact, it was probably 3-3 with Chris Waters casting the tie-breaking vote.
2) Who holds the knife pointed at the heart of WNY? Smart college presidents know that the way you get things done at a place like Williams is not to simply say, “Make it so.” You must, slowly and carefully, bring the community to agreement. And, the best way to do that is to create an “independent” committee, stocked with people who you know agree with you, and then let them make a recommendation. Then, when the decision comes down to, say, raise the academic requirements for athletes or prevent all the black students from living together in Brooks House, you can claim, “Not my idea!” This was recommended by the Committee on Varsity Athletics or the Committee on Undergraduate Life or the Committee on WNY.
Is that what happened here? I don’t know. I always thought that Morty was a fan of WNY, that he wants to see Williams expand globally, that we could expect to see more Williams in Oxford, Williams in Africa, Williams-Mystic and WNY-like programs a decade from now. So, why close WNY now? It could be that this wasn’t really Morty’s call, that he had no strong feelings about the issue. Since WNY was due for review, a committee was needed no matter what. It could also be that Wager and/or Lenhart were not WNY fans. Or it could just be that the Committee members themselves, with no preconceptions or biases, just decided that WNY was a waste of money. More gossip needed!
3) Key to the vote, I have heard, is what Morty says at the faculty meeting. If he stands up and sings the praises of WNY (while also praising the hard work of the Committee), then he will be sending a clear signal that he does not want the program to end now. To vote to kill it would be to vote against Morty. How many faculty would do that if they didn’t much care about the issue one way or the other? But, if Morty says nothing, then he will be indicating that he is just as happy to see WNY ended. Silence does not guarantee the end of WNY, but it would make clear where he stands. At a faculty meeting, you need to listen to what is said and what is not said.
4) Perhaps there is a longer game being played here. I am a fan of WNY (and Professor Jackall) but the report does make many good points, especially about the intellectual coherence of the program and its ability to continue once Jackall retires. Read the Report for details. So, perhaps the Administration does not really want to end WNY, they just want to force it into a different, less sociology/Jackall- specific incarnation.
And that would make sense to me. The reason that Williams-Mystic (WM), Williams-in-Oxford (WIOX) and WNY work is not so much because the fields of study are tailored to those locations. There is nothing wrong with such tailoring, especially in the case of WM, but the real magic comes from putting a little bit of Williams in a radically different part of the world, from creating a small platoon of Ephs far from the Purple Mountains. You could teach radically different classes at WM, WIOX and WNY and still have them be just as successful as they are.
Now, in reality, comparative advantages and institutional traditions will always dictate the maritime focus of WM. And perhaps it will always be hard to do much math/science at WIOX. (Why is that?) But there is nothing that forces WNY to be primarily sociological in outlook. Indeed, that is clear enough from the dramatic change to an Arts focus for next year.
So, I, for one, would like to see an explicit declaration that WNY, despite being created by a sociologist, in not just about sociology. (I don’t think that Jackall would disagree with me on this. Indeed, I bet that he finds these parts of the Report particularly annoying.) But let’s leave this issue for another day. The point is that Schapiro/Lenhart/Wagner might not really want to end WNY. They just might want to force some fairly major changes it; they might want to light a fire under WNY’s proponents so that they get serious about recruiting students, making changes, and so on.
May 6th, 2008 at 3:09 am
I hate to be contrarian… well… actually, I guess I don’t…
Let me put a little perspective on this. It is clear from the report that WNY really needs 32 customers per year to have a viable product.
Is that a realistic number? Scribbling madly on the back of my napkin, about 40% of each Williams class spends a semester off-campus, usually during junior year. Rough numbers, that’s about 200 students per year, give or take. So, we are looking at 16% of all Williams “study abroad” students signing up for a program four hours from campus, choosing it over the hundreds of incredible programs Williams offers in every corner of the globe.
I don’t believe 16% is achievable. Nor do I think it’s desireable for Williams to be so parochial in the 21st century. Fortunately, Williams students are NOT so parochial. That is why they are voting with their (parents’) wallets and not buying the WNY product.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:13 am
For me, the issue is whether the program has been given a full and fair review. I don’t think so. Anything less sells Williams short and demeans the faculty members who have put a great deal of effort into this program. It also leaves question marks about the College’s commitment to experiential education. Whatever the result is after a full and fair review, fine.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:57 am
For reference:
For the 2008-09 year, Oxford received 36 applicants for 22 spots. WNY received 26 applicants for 16 spots. The acceptance rates were the same. I think the argument against the program on the issue of student demand is moot.
May 6th, 2008 at 11:55 am
The issue of student demand is not moot. The program is not sustainable at the current enrollment. WNY needs to double the current demand to 32 students per year.
I do not believe that it is possible to sell a semester in WNY to 15% or more of the entire Williams “off-campus study” customer base.
Furthermore, to sell the program to additional customers would require an explicit pitch from Williams College:
Don’t study abroad. Don’t experience Asia. Or South America. Or India. Or Africa. Or the Middle East. Or Europe. Instead, study with Williams professors and Williams students just a few hours down the Taconic Parkway in New York.
This has to be the pitch because the potential market is finite. Increasing enrollment in WNY requires convincing customers to switch from other “brands” (i.e. foreign study).
I do not believe this is a pitch that Williams College should make to students who will live and work in a 21st century world where connections with foreign cultures are likely to be part of their daily routines.
May 6th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
By that logic, Williams should close down its JA programs, WNY, and WM. It’s not so stark an “either/or” of WNY/WM/JA or foreign experience. In fact, many of the JAs, to take an example I know a good bit about, do overseas Winter Study classes and/or independent projects (often more than one year) and/or work, travel, or study overseas during at least one summer. Williams encourages this with grants and placements. Williams also strongly supports a year or two of post-graduate study, work, or travel abroad through Williams-funded (e.g., the Luce and the fellowships for Cambridge) or outside-funded programs (Fullbrights, Marshalls, Peace Corps, etc.) and through helping with placements in English teaching jobs in Asia.
May 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I also note that some Williams students who would be disinclined to entertain a study abroad program might well be interested in WNY, so I disagree with your premise that it is a zero sum game.
May 6th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
And also, I really don’t see study abroad as something that is nearly as valuable as you make it out to be. For most people I know who studied abroad, from almost any college, it was basically a six month vacation with really easy classes and lots of partying … I’m not sure that six months of drinkign Peroni with Italian kids makes you any more ready to make a unique contribution to a globalized world …
May 6th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Jeff Z:
I’m no fan of European-vacation study abroad programs. When my daughter initially suggested one, my wife and I told her to take a semester off and use her summer savings to go travel in Europe if that’s what she wanted to do, figuring that a whale of a Euro vacation could be had for less than $25,000.
We set 3 requirements for a study abroad program:
a) Immersive mastery of a foreign language and/or
b) An eye-opening cultural experience and/or
c) Something that moved a major a long way down the path.
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BTW, I think that WNY could accomplish c) which is why I haven’t rejected the program out of hand. My comments have been restricted to the feasibility/desirablity of selling the product viz-a-viz other products in the Williams marketplace. I said, at the start, that WNY is a perfect Winter Study. I don’t really understand why the effort to pound the round Winter Study peg into the full-semester square hole. Winter Study, focused on one theme (art or sociology or urban studies) solves all the problems.
May 6th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
And, whatever the value of studying abroad, for international students, New York is very much “abroad.”
Moreover, as FM discussed on another thread, New York, although not technically overseas for rural Americans, is very much a foreign-feeling place for most of them; if experience away from Williams is so important for students, becoming familiar with a slice of urban America and some of the country’s premier institutions has to be potentially extremely valuable for these students.
In addition, there is nothing stopping Williams students from doing WNY and another semester program elsewhere. The requirements are that they be in residence for the first and (I believe) senior years. They are allowed to be away for the equivalent of a full year (and three Winter Studies).
May 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I don’t think students are allowed to go abroad during any time except Soph-Senior winter study, or their junior year. Mystic counts as “on-campus” so students can do Mystic their sophomore or senior years…I’m not sure if WNY counts similarly.
May 6th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Just to clarify one point above. By “eye-opening cultural experience”, I mean an experience that demands “uncomfortable learning”.
May 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Sorry to be coming in late on this ongoing debate, but is WNY open to non-Williams students? If not, why not?
May 6th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
No. WNY is not open to other schools.
a) The WNY program almost exclusively features Williams alumni. It’s unclear whether they would be interested if the group were not Williams students.
b) The cost of the program would limit it to other big-dollar schools. I don’t think it would be an easy sell to get other schools to give academic credit for a “study abroad” program at the Williams Club in midtown Manhattan.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
hwc–most schools give academic credit for all sorts of ridiculous abroad experiences. In the grand range of abroad programs approved by the top schools, there is no doubt in my mind that WNY falls more towards the academically justified end of the spectrum.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”
I think Bertrand Russell’s view of fanatical fools can appropriately be inserted here.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:55 am
you can learn just as (if not more so) “uncomfortably” in Williamstown in more academically rigorous situations.
But maybe, as someone who spent a lot of time in lab, I’m biased…
May 7th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Exactly: what is an “uncomfortable” or “foreign” learning experience or environment differs from individual to individual, depending on factors like background, experience, personality, and self-confidence in a particular area.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Right. My wife and I obviously made that determination or we probably wouldn’t have spent $45,000 a year on college for the little darlin’!
The fact that we set out three goals for an off-campus study program, at least one of which needed to be met to “sell” us, doesn’t preclude any or all of those goals being met in other endeavors. In fact, we consciously expressed the opinion that, for an off-campus study program to be worth $22,500 per semester, it needed to offer at least as much enrichment as a semester at college.
I happen to think the WNY program meets those goals. That not really the issue. The issue is poor sales of the product and whether it makes sense for Williams to pull marketing resources from other very good programs to make WNY the most enrolled study program offered by Williams with a full 15% of Williams off-campus students attending.
In other words, the issue isn’t really intrinsic value of the WNY program, but the relative value in terms of college resources and opportunity costs to bolster a product that is currently not selling at sustainable levels. Keep trying to sell New Coke? Or cut your losses?
May 7th, 2008 at 11:57 am
In the grand range of abroad programs approved by the top schools, there is no doubt in my mind that WNY falls more towards the academically justified end of the spectrum.
I’ve read the course descriptions and agree with you about the academic rigor.
It still would be a very difficult sell to other colleges.