Tue 19 Aug 2008
After-School Fun
Posted by Ronit under Alumni, Drinking in the Berkshires, EphCOI
Posted at 11:52 pmGood to see an idea from Williams infiltrate the University of North Carolina:
Last year, graduate student and teaching assistant David Ticehurst had a few students from his Astronomy 101 class over for dinner.
Ticehurst went out and got barbecue, and he and his students discussed the stars until late in the evening.
He thought it was such a good idea that now he is trying to secure funding so professors and TAs can host similar events without taking money out of their own pockets.
Ticehurst, who spent his undergraduate years at Williams College, a small liberal arts school in Massachusetts, said his former school has a similar program that helped shape his undergraduate experience.
“I think it’s a really good idea,” he said. “It gives the students a chance to see the real world outside of the classroom.”
Ticehurst still needs funds for the program. Last year he sought $5,000 for the program from the Graduate and Professional Student Federation in addition to a matching contribution from the provost’s office.
“It’s like the University was just waiting for someone to come along with this idea,” he said. “They are always talking about developing a more intellectual climate, and that’s what this does.”
He said he is planning on designing a Web site where instructors can submit proposals and share stories about programs.
He also wants to make a presentation in front of the Faculty Council to get them excited about the program, which initially evolved out of class discussions.
Having the students over for barbecue was something Ticehurst, who is a certified barbecue judge, had talked about with his students all semester, he said.
When it came time to host a pilot event, he thought that would be the perfect time to try it.
Michael Johnston, a sophomore who was in Ticehurst’s astronomy lab, signed up to help Ticehurst after enjoying the first program.
“It was funny at first because you’re seeing all of these faces you’re used to seeing at 8 a.m. when nobody is awake,” Johnston said. “It was awkward at first, but we found enough to keep the conversation going.”
Johnston also said seeing the instructor outside of the classroom setting makes him or her more approachable.
“It makes it seem like you have some sort of connection to this person that’s teaching you,” Johnston said. “Instead of just seeing this giant brain at the front, you see a little more of a person.”
I have no doubt that the evenings I spent drinking wine and chatting with professors till late at night were more valuable to me than a good many of my classes. I only regret that I did not do it more often.

August 20th, 2008 at 1:11 am
It’s good to hear about Ticehurst! He was my tutorial partner for the solid state physics tutorial we took junior year. He’s an incredibly nice guy and I am glad to hear he’s doing well.
Ticehurst is a giant brain, though :)
August 20th, 2008 at 2:53 am
Correct, with double majors and sports, there remains few venues to avail oneself of the regret of missed opportunities.
August 20th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Does Williams still give professors a few dollars of Snack Bar or Goodrich coffee bar credit to have coffee with stuents? That used to be a great way to chat with professors in a more relaxed environment. I think the funds might have come from the CUL or something. It wasn’t a lot, but you could get a cup of coffee and hang out there instead of the tiny and cramped old offices.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Sheafe Satterthwaite was legendary for eating lunch with students in the dining hall, meeting them at the snack bar, taking them to Mill on the Floss, or, for the truly fortunate, having them up to his place in Salem, NY or the Albatross. (As a former wrestler, Lowell, I suspect you know what I’m talking about) Although I am quite sure that he did not petition for any supplemental funding as a $1 prof.
And there are many other professors that host similar get-togethers. Truly one of the best parts of the small LAC experience.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Mill on the Floss? The College is paying its profs too well.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Yes, JG - both TAs and Profs get $3 per person to take students to the Snack Bar, or the coffee bars at Goodrich/Schow Atrium/wherever else they’ve put ‘em up now.
Though the privilege does get abused if, like me, you date a TA.
August 20th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Does $3 cover a beverage from Starbucks (I don’t since I’m not a Starbucks patron)?
August 20th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
frank–$3 will barely cover a basic starbucks drink. it did, however, buy me many a milkshake (thanks Prof Gerrard!)
August 20th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
There’s no Starbucks on campus, is there?
August 20th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
KDane, never took a class with him. Too busy finishing my double major in 3 years (but for 1 physics upper-level elective that I got credit for at Columbia)
August 20th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Ronit: they killed the TA benefit last year, largely because too many people were abusing it. It’s sad, because as a TA, I really enjoyed abusing it. :-) Profs can still do it, though.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Boo! Would it have been that hard to swipe the ID cards of everyone in the group, record it in PeopleSoft, and send an automated message to any flagrant abusers - ie, TAs who repeatedly take out people who are not in any class with them?
Everyone’s course info as well as everyone’s dining services usage is already in PeopleSoft, and the card readers are all plugged into the network, so this should have been pretty easy to do. Even the mere fact that usage was recorded, and a nicely worded statement that TAs who abuse the system would have their privileges revoked, would have sufficed to curtail abuse.
What did we pay the PeopleSoft corporation $6 million for, anyway?
August 20th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Big Brother is watching you!
August 21st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Anyone know who found this article?
Williams now has a program called “Lyceum Dinners”
http://www.williams.edu/admission/history_traditions.php#lyceum
LJ- SS was so easy.
August 25th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Hooray to Ticehurst and hooray for UNC!