Fri 21 Nov 2008
There was debate last week about whether or not the monthly Williams faculty meetings are public. The truth seems to be that, for decades, they were but that, very recently, things have changed. Pathetic. If you believe in the virtues of academia, then you believe in openness and transparency. Although many meetings at Williams will, of course, need to remain private, any gathering of the full faculty should be public. Aren’t all my progressive friends supposed to believe in open meetings? Details below.
First, what is the policy now? Associate Dean of the Faculty John Gerry (a smart and stand-up Eph) provides this link to the Faculty Handbook.
Faculty Meetings
Faculty meetings are generally held one Wednesday a month during the academic year at 4:00 p.m. in Room 3, Griffin Hall. In addition to the faculty, representatives of several administrative offices attend these meetings, as do student representatives of the College Council, The Williams Record, and student members of those committees having business at the meetings. The formal power to convene faculty meetings is vested in the President and the Faculty Steering Committee, who jointly set the agenda for meetings, including regular reports from committees. The President normally presides over the meeting and is assisted by the Dean of the Faculty, who presides in the President’s absence, and by the Secretary. Materials relating to the agenda are sent to the faculty prior to each meeting, and summaries of actions taken are sent subsequently. At each meeting there is a question period during which members of the faculty are invited to address to the officers of administration and chairs of standing committees questions and comments about matters pertaining to their respective spheres of responsibility. Full minutes of each meeting are circulated to all department chairs and may be consulted by any voting member of the faculty.
Note that this says nothing about whether or not faculty meetings are public. Back in the 80’s, they were public. Anyone could attend (although few did). I remember Philosophy Professor Laszlo Versenyi — tweed jacket with elbow matches, gravelly voice with a marvelous Hungarian accent — gently mocking his fellow professors for their stupidity in thinking that divisional requirements would actually cause students with no interest in science to learn science.
Why could I attend a faculty meeting in 1987 while today’s students are barred?
Gerry writes:
I should add that the understanding is that Record editors attend for purposes of attaining background only, not to report on the meeting, and not to quote directly from the proceedings. They’re free, of course, to follow up later with meeting participants. It would not be appreciated by the faculty were students to attend meetings for the purposes of publishing the faculty’s comments or thoughts on College business. In fact, this practice would likely discourage the faculty from speaking freely. Please do not encourage any student who might have business at a Faculty Meeting to do this.
Gerry knows me too well! But where does this “understanding” come from? When did it start? Whose idea was it? If I were a current Eph interested in protecting the rights of students (say, a member of Gargoyle or College Council), I would go to the next meeting and dare them to kick me out. Then, I would take notes and blog about them.
Do you believe in freedom? Well, do you punk?
The notion that Williams faculty would feel inhibited from speaking freely is absurd.
Gerry is certainly correct about the current status. Record editor-in-chief Kevin Waite ‘09 writes:
A seat is saved for me at every faculty meeting. I attend under the strict conditions that nothing there is on the record. I can, however, approach a faculty member in regards to something he or she said during the meeting to see if they’ll go on the record. We would never want to report on happenings without permission, knowing full well that the administration would likely bar us from future meetings if we did so. In fact, I’m pretty surprised to hear the Record used to report on meetings without permission.
Prepare to be surprised. Here is former Record editor-in-chief Mike Needham ‘04:
I attended every faculty meeting for two years, except the end of one meeting each year when compensation is discussed. If they were off the record, I wasn’t ever told that. I can’t remember if I ever quoted directly from a meeting, I know I took notes and do not remember them being off the record, but generally there were better quotes to be gotten outside the meeting than what you’d get inside the meeting. I got 10x more value out of talking with profs afterwards about what wasn’t said in any particular meeting than by anything said in a faculty meeting.
If I were Waite, I would write on this story. When did the policy change? Who changed it? Are the faculty meetings at other schools public? And so on.
If students don’t defend the rights, honors, and privileges appertaining thereto — read that aloud in your best Frank Oakley impersonation — they will lose the freedoms they have.


November 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Dave –
While I respect your desire for openness, I disagree 100% with your argument here. There are things said in faculty meetings that should not be public. Sometimes the sausage is made in those meetings. Transparency does not mean 100% access to everything. Faculty need to have the ability to meet among themselvs in a closed forum to make decisions, to hash out arguments, to call out administrators among themselves but not have those things be public. Junior facukty need to be able to speak out without worrying that their every word will be scrutinized by administrators. Faculty need to be able to speak frankly about unpopular issues, to be able to work through things that might well come across as unreasonable in the early stages. This demand is unreasonable, would encroach on faculty freedoms, and would almost certainly close off certain types of discussion that might in the long run be good for the college. In my estimation you are 100% wrong on this one, even if your heart is in the right place. (Though the snarky comment about progressives at the end of the post casts the assertion of your noble motives into doubt. This has nothing to do with partisanship/ideology, yet you insist on injecting partisanship/ideology into it.)
dcat
November 21st, 2008 at 1:14 pm
ditto
November 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Dcat– I agree with most of what you said, but just for the record (so to speak), administrators are at all faculty meetings as well. I do think it’s important to be able to say things, especially for junior faculty who face very important teaching evaluations, away from student ears.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Where is the line drawn between legitimate privacy and abusive Star Chamber?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
As an historical matter, I would be interesting in hearing why the policy or practice changed, and why, if anyone knows.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Star Chamber?
What?
I agree that the meetings should be private. I certainly wouldn’t want to be a faculty member sharing feelings about WNY with the entire student group of “Students for Williams in New York” watching me.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
‘Open meetings’ at which inputs are gathered for all to hear and respond are a valuable part of the decision making process.
And ‘Transparency’ as the making of information available to be able to have informed stake-holders in issues, is necessary to the ‘Open meeting’
However, given the open and transparent nature of the above, at some point decisions must be reached by those who are the decision makers. Through some process of delegation down, promotion up, or selection by voters, these decision-makers have been charged with the responsibility to hammer out a program or a process or a proposition.
These proceedings should be in private among the decision makers. It seems to me this applies to the questions on the table at faculty meetings. If stake-holders are unhappy with decisions reached, they have other recourse.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Frank — What? Star Chamber? What inanity is this?
Faculty Members meet. Good God, do we meet. So the question becaomes, must everything that goes on when faculty meet be public simply to quench someone’s conception of openness? No one is saying that faculty decisions should be kept private. But the process by which we arrive at those decisions should be.
I had no idea that administrators attended faculty meetings. All? Can Morty show up? Or are we talking chairs, who have always been in-between when it comes to being both faculty and admin? In our faculty senate, that is always the question we ask when we focus something at admin — are chairs admin or are they “one of us” as it were?
Best –
dcat
November 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Dcat-
All the major administrators are at all faculty meetings. The president runs the meetings and the dean of the faculty, provost, dean of the college, etc. are all there as well.
The line between faculty and administration is obviously less clear than at some schools.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:23 pm
1) I agree that not all meetings should be public. The sausage-making in, say, meetings of the political science department, may be hidden. But a meeting of all 300+ members of the faculty is, for all practical purposes, a public event already.
2) My main objection is not so much that these meetings are private now as that, for decades, they were public. Don’t change the rules without a good reason and due consideration.
3) My suspicion is that the rules were not really changed. Read the entry on the faculty handbook. Since the College Council or Record could, by fiat, make any student a “representative,” then the meetings are, for all practical purposes, open. And, even if you want to quibble and insist that only students that are on CC (or a student-faculty committee) are allowed in the room, there is nothing in the description that prevents such a student (or a faculty member attending) from blogging about every detail. (This is unlike the case with, say, the Honor Committee, in which the deliberations are specifically listed as secret.)
Summary: Whatever Dean Gerry might now try to claim, faculty meetings really are public. They always have been and the rules have never been changed. If I were a student, I would assert my right to attend and report.
4) I mention “progressives” because it was progressives who were largely behind the open meetings movement, at least as it applies to government. My Republican friends can not take credit for this improvement.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
FYI, I’d be happy to try and determine if I ever reported anything from a faculty meeting if the RECORD WOULD EVER GET THE OLD ARCHIVES BACK UP.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
This appears to quote directly from faculty meetings, and certainly reports on what happened:
http://www.williamsrecord.com/wr/?view=article§ion=news&id=5451
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
John Clayton ‘85, editor-in-chief of the Record during my brief two week stint as a Record reporter, was kind enough to allow me to publish his memories.
Thanks to John.