Comments on: McGinn wins http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/ All Things Eph Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:13:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: PTC http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74731 PTC Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:19:27 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74731 Well... I look at the aqua teen hunger force fiasco differently than you I guess. It does make me feel better about it that you think she is fair though Jeff... honestly. You have much better visibility on her record as a prosecutor than I do, no doubt about it. As far as the gun control position she has... I think we have inflicted that debate enough on Ephblog. I strongly oppose her severe position on gun control... Well… I look at the aqua teen hunger force fiasco differently than you I guess. It does make me feel better about it that you think she is fair though Jeff… honestly. You have much better visibility on her record as a prosecutor than I do, no doubt about it.

As far as the gun control position she has… I think we have inflicted that debate enough on Ephblog. I strongly oppose her severe position on gun control…

]]> By: jeffz http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74723 jeffz Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:39:26 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74723 Well, PTC, I know her history better than you, and I can guarantee you that, in the world of prosecutors, she is about as un-politically-motivated and fair as you could possible ask for. Certainly in her time as Middlesex D.A. she placed a tremendous emphasis on doing JUSTICE as opposed to winning at all costs. That was a firm and consistent message from the top, right on down the line, in that office. I don't have any first-hand knowledge of her time as A.G., but I'll just make a general point that (a) you don't know the whole story behind the prosecutions you found objectionable; certainly there is often many aspects of an investigation that are never, and can never be, made public, and (b) hindsight is 20-20 and even if a few cherry-picked prosecutions out of literally TENS OF THOUSANDS she has been involved with and/or ultimately responsible for in her career appear in retrospect to have not been handled perfectly, that in no way indicates she is someone who is generally hostile to the Constitution. That is a very grave and, in my mind, wholly unsupported charge by you. She is anything but a Mike Nifong-type who bases her decisions on the political winds. Not to say she is totally immune from political calculation; no successful politician is. But in the grand scheme of things, I most definitely trust her to do the right thing far more often than almost any alternative in that office. And I'm thankful, on the subsidiary gun point, that someone at least has the guts to stand opposed to the NRA's massive special interest money machine, which in recent months has led to stupidity like legislation allowing guns in bars. Well, PTC, I know her history better than you, and I can guarantee you that, in the world of prosecutors, she is about as un-politically-motivated and fair as you could possible ask for. Certainly in her time as Middlesex D.A. she placed a tremendous emphasis on doing JUSTICE as opposed to winning at all costs. That was a firm and consistent message from the top, right on down the line, in that office. I don’t have any first-hand knowledge of her time as A.G., but I’ll just make a general point that (a) you don’t know the whole story behind the prosecutions you found objectionable; certainly there is often many aspects of an investigation that are never, and can never be, made public, and (b) hindsight is 20-20 and even if a few cherry-picked prosecutions out of literally TENS OF THOUSANDS she has been involved with and/or ultimately responsible for in her career appear in retrospect to have not been handled perfectly, that in no way indicates she is someone who is generally hostile to the Constitution. That is a very grave and, in my mind, wholly unsupported charge by you. She is anything but a Mike Nifong-type who bases her decisions on the political winds. Not to say she is totally immune from political calculation; no successful politician is. But in the grand scheme of things, I most definitely trust her to do the right thing far more often than almost any alternative in that office. And I’m thankful, on the subsidiary gun point, that someone at least has the guts to stand opposed to the NRA’s massive special interest money machine, which in recent months has led to stupidity like legislation allowing guns in bars.

]]> By: PTC http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74717 PTC Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:02:58 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74717 Jeffz- Oh, she beat the odds. The Kennedys stayed out of it. Just because a person is from my home town or went to Williams that does not mean they will represent the nation well. I want a person who I know is going to support our Constitution. The major problem that I have with her politics on guns is nothing in comparison to what I see as a pattern of negligent prosecutions ... she seems to prosecute people for political reasons, and be unwilling to admit when she makes mistakes in that arena- which hurts innocent people. That is a big deal, for me. You and I have focused a lot of our arguments about her politics on the gun control issue, but if you read back you will find that that is really our debate, and secondary to the issue I have with the manner in which she has used her power to enforce the law. Jeffz- Oh, she beat the odds. The Kennedys stayed out of it.

Just because a person is from my home town or went to Williams that does not mean they will represent the nation well.

I want a person who I know is going to support our Constitution. The major problem that I have with her politics on guns is nothing in comparison to what I see as a pattern of negligent prosecutions … she seems to prosecute people for political reasons, and be unwilling to admit when she makes mistakes in that arena- which hurts innocent people.

That is a big deal, for me. You and I have focused a lot of our arguments about her politics on the gun control issue, but if you read back you will find that that is really our debate, and secondary to the issue I have with the manner in which she has used her power to enforce the law.

]]> By: JeffZ http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74674 JeffZ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:04:14 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74674 I should probably not jinx her -- overcame the odds to be on the BRINK of becoming a Senator ... I should probably not jinx her — overcame the odds to be on the BRINK of becoming a Senator …

]]> By: JeffZ http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74673 JeffZ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:40 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74673 Hate to say I told you so, PTC, but .... and I note that she has been endorsed by all sorts of people who know NOTHING about firearms, such as, for example, the POLICE. I would think you'd at least be happy that a North Adams resident overcame the odds to become a Senator ... Hate to say I told you so, PTC, but …. and I note that she has been endorsed by all sorts of people who know NOTHING about firearms, such as, for example, the POLICE. I would think you’d at least be happy that a North Adams resident overcame the odds to become a Senator …

]]> By: PTC http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74671 PTC Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:52:23 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74671 Cool! Guy seems like he will make a good mayor. ... I agree Jeffz- Coakley looks like a shoe in right. Too bad on that one. Cool! Guy seems like he will make a good mayor.

… I agree Jeffz- Coakley looks like a shoe in right. Too bad on that one.

]]> By: JeffZ http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/10/mcginn-wins/#comment-74669 JeffZ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:34:35 +0000 http://www.ephblog.com/?p=24285#comment-74669 Sweet! So barring something expected in Coakley's election, we'll soon have two Eph U.S. Senators, one Mayor of a major city, and one Congressman. And I forgetting anyone? Not too shabby for a school of 2000. Sweet! So barring something expected in Coakley’s election, we’ll soon have two Eph U.S. Senators, one Mayor of a major city, and one Congressman. And I forgetting anyone? Not too shabby for a school of 2000.

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