Sun 15 Nov 2009
Teach You So Much
Posted by David under Bernard Moore at 6:29 am
I have removed this post at 8:30 PST. Sunday, 15 November.
I have acted on my own and without approval of the board. I take full responsibility for my actions. Too much is too much!
Dick Swart
President
Ephblog
I suggest EphBloggers read this article by Nicholas Kristof
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/opinion/15kristof.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=opinion&adxnnlx=1258297877-6+CdwmXuNf7jE9PYc/CWcQ
Below is the immediate relevent correspondance:
From: dick@swart.org
Subject: Teach so much post …
Date: November 15, 2009 8:12:52 AM PST
To: derek, ronit, loweeel, esmith
Cc: kthomas
From: dick@swart.org
Subject: Please remove the teach post …
If Dave hasn’t taken this post down by 8:30 PST, I am going to.
This is too much and absolutely wrong.
Please know that as president I am taking this action without board approval and will so state in whatever I write.
I take full responsibility for this action.
Dick Swart
President
EphBlog
Date: November 15, 2009 7:39:25 AM PST
To: dave@kanecap.com
Subject: Teach you so much …
you can claim coercion, the EphBlog president’s ignorance and lack of understanding of the situation, the pc sensibilities of the lily-livered participants in EphBlog to be able to deal with reality, or any other thoughts that might occur to you. Rant at me!
This post is wrong and not in the spirit of the note I sent previously to get you off of race-baiting and on to the issues of vetting by the college.
Dick
Date: November 15, 2009 7:02:48 AM PST
To: dave@kanecap.com
I implore you to take this down.
Dick
From: dick@swart.org
Subject: Fwd: Moorish Invasion
Date: November 12, 2009 3:12:01 PM PST
To: dave@kanecap.com
Dave,
The attachment below is what I hope we may avoid!
I don’t think you wanted to play the race card to the exclusion of all other circumstances. But I am afraid it might have been read that way.
In setting up the one-stop-shop for your every racial need, please be careful it doesn’t take on a life of its’ own to the exclusion of all the other Bozo circumstances.
I know that the race card will come up at some point in this discussion, but it would be better to have it in the environment of the vetting/mission/funding questions.
And aimed at the larger more college-related issues and needs of balance, rather than Mr Moore in particular.
Mr Moore is a pathetic little man who deserves to spend a long time in an orange jumpsuit for defrauding $800,000 from well-meaning souls. The color of his particular skin is not the issue with his crime or his intentions. He is a felon and a bad guy regardless of race,religion, or place of national origin. He is no more a hero for his second chance program than Roman Polanski is for Rosemary’s Baby.
There is something to be corrected within the system in this instance. Go find it!
Dick
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rory says:
this week’s episode of outh park is very appropriate for this post…”I’m only asking questions!” lol/smh.
frank uible says:
Talking about sleaze. This type of speculation is what partisans like to whisper in back rooms and living rooms but usually have at least the good sense to refrain from expressing in public fora. Shame on you, David.
wslack says:
Endorsed. There is crazy speculation, and there is crazy speculation that also counts as libel.
Anon Parent says:
Agree with wslack and others. Thank you Mr. Swart.
04emily says:
while I’m sure dick was 100% right in taking this down, I am so, so deeply curious about what the original post said!
Ronit says:
I approve of and endorse Dick’s decision. I would have preferred a clean deletion. The post was shoddy and failed the most basic standards of journalism or commentary
Derek says:
I too wish I had been up and about in time to see the original post.
But . . . why not use this as a chance to take something of a sabbatical from this issue? Not a week, or even necessarily multiple days. But maybe wait until tomorrow, and perhaps until something more concrete is available to any intrepid sould who posts about it?
All of us have been thrown for a loop by this event. Dave has done yeoman’s work on this, but as so often happens, we end up going down the rabbit holes of ideology into the warrens of ax grinding. Ideology is fine, and sometimes axes need to be grind. But maybe we can take the rest of today to just let our blood pressure drop.
We all love Williams. And these recent events have cut us to the quick. There is legitimate hurt and sadness, and especially anger welled up in many, if not all of us. But the problem becomes that we can channel these powerful feelings into speculation that goes from the understandable to the irresponsible, and to solutions to problems that may not be as systemic as they appear.
dcat
Will Slack '11 says:
@Derek: I am still learning more/new stuff, but am holding back until I can confirm it. The situation as Ephblog understands it isn’t quite accurate.
Ken Thomas '93 says:
The situation as ephBlog understands it isn’t quite accurate? The situation as ephBlog understands it isn’t quite accurate? The situation as ephBlog understands it isn’t quite accurate?
I just got in two and a half hours late after a series of late trains (in Germany!) and needed that laugh.
JG says:
@Will Slack ‘11: Perish the thought!
David says:
Apologies for not getting to this sooner.
1) “race=baiting?” There is a certain school of thought that sees any criticism of black people or organizations as race-baiting. I would hope that EphBlog is more mature.
2) I won’t repost the offensive commentary until the Ombudsperson has considered the issue. And, to be honest, I am not certain which line(s) most angered Dick. (I will also note that Rory seemed not overly offended.)
But, the substance was a) I have some concerns about Jim Brown’s Amer-I-can and b) I think there is a good chance that Moore tried (at least!) to steal from Williams.
rory says:
not overly offended only because you’ve lost the ability to offend anymore. i am immune to some extent. this was a truly terrible post before it was deleted, i just wasn’t surprised.
PTC says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFj3OXVL_wQ
hahahahaha.
Ronit says:
@David:
There is a certain school of thought that sees any problems that involve black people or organizations as being caused by, or related to, affirmative action. I would hope that EphBlog is more mature.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but your commentary did not offend me. It embarrassed me, and made me concerned about what it might cost EphBlog to hire a lawyer.
Incorrect. There was no actual substance in your post. Did they not teach you to include “facts” when you write commentary? Perhaps Williams does need a writing program. Your little piece would have earned an F grade from any high school or even middle school writing instructor.
Andy says:
Could anyone give a summary in the comments of what David’s post was about? I’m sure everyone wants to know what happened here. Is there a way you can summarize it without repeating the offending/libelous remarks?
kthomas says:
@Andy: Hello.
I see my position as Ombudsperson as requiring me to explore each side and weigh their concerns equally– and to work towards practical resolutions, which are not necessarily public nor precise. While I like to think I have ability in this, recent events (not just this) have reminded me how difficult this can be.
David, like all of us, can speak for himself and I believe his summary, above, is sufficiently accurate for the question you ask in this context. I would add that the framing of his post can be seen as racially motivated or “baiting,” and that David seems to have failed to include sufficient additional framing/summary materials in his post, or substantiating details, to avoid raising concerns of a racially motivated post– in an event at which race seems, in one way or another, “at play.”
In my role as Ombudsperson, I have formed no opinion on the underlying issue. Again, my role is to work towards resolution and an equitable balance of all parties and concerns, and not to provide a public summary of the internal process.
kthomas says:
Note: an anonymous comment which appeared in this space was moved to Coventry.