Tue 17 Nov 2009
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Eph jr says:
[The following comment has been relegated to Coventry because it falsifies the poster's return address:]
Have you pipl no internet skillz?
http:// [suppressed] /search?q=cache:JdJxp-jZLucJ:www.ephblog.com/2009/11/15/teach-you-so-much/+http://www.ephblog.com/2009/11/15/teach-you-so-much/
There is *nothing* offensive in this post at all. It’s just routine political opinionating which the censorious classes like to suppress when it makes them sad.
[Like many forums, we require a "real" return address for a number of reasons-- in short, so that a moderator or administrator can contact an actual person if the need arises; (it does not arise often) and so that any author can potentially contact a poster.
@poster: you may repost this comment, if you wish, with a valid return address that you can and will respond to. I have obscured the address in the Google Cache you link to; for your edification, note that the GoogleBot does not normally come by often enough, to make this a reliable method; as well, the GoogleBot will come by again soon, replacing the cached version you link with the current version (I can also force this to occur, removing the version you link to from the Google Cache).
Finally, why I myself do experiment with language a bit, I believe you will find this audience distinctly unreceptive to your dialect of online slang and the implications of your particular choice of diction; you may wish to rephrase for this audience.
@audience: it's also a bloody waste of anyone's time to reply/act in this manner towards every random passerby, when they may not be reading or care or every visit us again; this particular passerby has a physical address which suggests it may be worth the effort. --93kwt as Ombs/moderator.]
frank uible says:
What rules? Your correspondent knows no rules – he does as he damn well pleases.
kthomas says:
That you may, frank– but I do not see you pleasing to defraud the unwitting, to assault or murder,
frank uible says:
Just give me a chance and some running room!
Vicarious'83 says:
@frank uible: Quote Wall!
frank uible says:
I like the quote attributed to George Washington Plunkitt of Tammany Hall, “I seen my opportunities, and I took ‘em”.
kthomas says:
^^Now, I hate to take this back to Mr. Moore… but in my experience, the dollar amount and nature of his acts are not that significant. at least, I think I could come up with a list of fifty names who have engaged in the same rough category of offense; and a much larger list, if we want to talk about holding a credit card in an alias/SSN that is “not one’s own.”
(I’m not going to begin, on the creation of juridical offenses that did not exist fifty years ago).
So– since we’re in Coventry– I have to raise the question– why was Mr. Moore chosen for prosecution, where, say {insert category description here} might or would not be?
ephling says:
Student loan fraud is possibly worse than murder when it comes to evading prosecution. The debt is almost impossible to evade and except in rare circumstances can not be discharged even in bankruptcy (thanks to the lobbyists in the code reform a couple of years ago, that gem is working its way up to the Supreme Court). In many cases the private lender earns more through default and prosecution as the government back stops the loans in an AIG like matter. Sometimes the rate will reset to a higher level retroactively to loan inception and they will be paid in full> After all they are providing a public service making college available to all. We used to issue special purpose finance sub preferred to Sallie Mae in an effort to reduce there tax liability because they made so much friggin money back then. They needed to prosecute. Would not matter if he was black, pink with yellow pocadots, or a Martian, no one escapes.
kthomas says:
ephling:
You may have something there (on the need to prosecute student loan fraud). You also raise issues of the legal nature of student load debt and its discharge; I believe there is at least one case that did make it to SCOTUS; and, of course, one take is that the enormous increase in available credit led to the enormous increase in College/University spending.
In Germany, we have the seventh or eighth night of student riots in the streets; in Heidelberg, we have a significant percentage of students who do not have enough money to eat at the level required for basic nutrition.
kthomas says:
P.S. US student loan default rate, as I last read it, is now above 30%.